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                  James tells us a little more about the song,   "It's kinda like a public service announce-  of different people, but, if it's a case of never
               ‘Caviar And Diamonds’. "Kieran wrote a lot of   ment," James concludes.     saying anything, then you'll never know what
               the lyrics for these ones and what we were try-                       could have been, so there are definitely ele-
               ing to get at is about how things are today and   lsewhere on the album is a song called   ments of that."
               how things go. People see things on the news   E'Casual  Tragedy', in which James
               every day and everyone sees everything going   sings, ‘Pick up the phone, don't make me your   ith 'Until the End' including the lyric,
               on around them every day and there are peo-  tragedy’.                   W‘Erases me, replaces me, no trace of
               ple who feel there is nothing they can do, or   James tells us, "I try not to go too much   me’, we end by asking how they hope they and
               they might feel cheated. The way I feel about   into the subject of mental health because there   the Thieves will be remembered and whether
               those lyrics is that, every day, there are people   are so many mixed opinions with these things,   they are at all concerned with being erased or
               who feel cheated with the things that are going   but people should talk to each other. If you   replaced without a trace.
               on around them and we're the mugs some-  have people close to you, friends, then no-one   Tom replies, "That is certainly a big thing
               times.                             should sit in silence and wallow or feel like shit.   for me. The idea of a legacy and that you al-
                  "Without going too far, I think there is an   But situations can be so complicated some-  most die twice. You die and then you die again
               angst for change                                                                            the last time
               in a lot of ways,                                                                           someone
               but the good                                                                                says   your
               thing about that                                                                            name,  and
               song  is  that                                                                              that is a big
               music has al-                                                                               philosophy in
               ways been a                                                                                 my life. Being
               catalyst for peo-                                                                           able to leave
               ple who, maybe,                                                                             a legacy that
               didn't have a                                                                               stands  the
               voice to be able                                                                            test of time.
               to say some-                                                                                It's a case of
               thing, and that is                                                                          leaving a last-
               the reason why                                                                              ing memory
               the  song  is                                                                               on at least
               there.                                                                                      one  person
                  "There are                                                                               and, if you
               so many things                                                                              can,  you've
               people   say                                                                                done a good
               every day. We                                                                               job."
               were   talking                                                                                 Agreeing
               about 'Sweet As                                                                             wholeheart-
               Today' and turn-                                                                            edly, James
               ing off the news.                                                                           says, "A lot of
               There  is  so                                                                               people  get
               much stuff out                                                                              this worry of,
               there that affects                                                                          ‘Fuck!  An-
               the way people                                                                              other  year
               are, and so, I do                                                                           gone, another
               think it's time for                                                                         year  gone,
               change in a lot                                                                             another year
               of ways. Every-                                                                             gone,’  and
               one wants to put                                                                            people  feel
               the world to                                                                                that   they
               rights in their                                                                             haven't made
               kitchen at 2am!"                                                                            progress.
                  The song in-                                                                             And, I think,
               cludes the lyric                                                                            subcon -
               ‘Hate is wise,                                                                              sciously, it is a
               love is foolish’.                                                                           bit of a legacy
               James    tells                                                                              thing,  be-
               Black  Velvet,                                                                              cause   you
               "Obviously, there is irony in that lyric; we don't   times, it's not for anyone to speak on.   want to leave something behind rather than
               want anyone to be hateful. The best thing you   "I'm guilty of not talking when I should and   just rotting in a ditch!
               can probably do, at the moment, is keep the   people tell me that all the time. It's like we were   "Sometimes you have to take your time to
               people you love close to you. Keep an eye on   saying before about trying to change things   realise what you're doing. The song is about
               everything that is going on and, if you get the   about yourself but sometimes things are a   time running out, but you do have to take the
               chance to change something for the better, try   slow-moving train. Hopefully, it will get there   time to appreciate what you are doing at the
               and change it.                     eventually, but I can write a song and say   time. Like, when we travel around, all the
                  "People at our level have just got to live,   something that way, and that's my way of pick-  laughs we have together, and playing these
               you know what I mean? Get on, go to work, put   ing up the phone, but maybe it means some-  songs, that's where it really is at."
               food on the table and everything.  The best   thing different for someone else who is   And so, we leave James and Tom to plot
               thing is to just try and be happy with the life that   listening."    their next heist. The release of their album has
               you have got and make something of it."   Tom adds, "When I listen to that song and   underlined their ability and talents, the live per-
                  Tom adds, “The chorus of the song is writ-  James' lyric, I took it as, ‘Don't let a failure of   formances confirm that their skills translate to
               ten from the opinion of the oppressor, rather   talking to someone ruin what could be. So,   the stage and the past 30 or so minutes high-
               than the people trying to preach a message.   don't throw me to the side for fear or trying to   light what thoroughly nice fellas Thieves Of Lib-
               It's them kinda saying, ‘Sit down, know your   resolve a situation.’ I don't know if that's what   erty are. So, be warned, they might not just
               role, and do your work,’ and kinda everyone fall   he meant, but that was how I took those   steal the show when you see them, they may
               into the binary, bland, no kind of personality,   words."             steal your hearts as well.
               kind of thing, so, the final line of, ‘why the hell   Clearly impressed to hear this from his   Visit www.thievesofliberty.com
               do we do this?’ is a retort against that kind of   bandmate, James continues, "It might have a
               mindset, and that was the running theme of the   certain, specific meaning to me, but it's in-  Words By Michael Coventry
               song."                             tended to mean a lot of different things to a lot

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