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                      he UK is home to some fantastic bands and talented musicians. Some are
                 Tlucky enough to sign global record deals, tour the world, reach mainstream
              chart status and achieve worldwide recognition. One musician who has accom-
              plished more than most, and is still here to tell the tale, is CJ Wildheart, founding
              member of The Wildhearts, Honeycrack and The Jellys, who is now a well-es-
              tablished solo artist, with eight solo studio albums under his belt. His latest
              album, ‘DEViL’, released on June 26th, is packed full of raucous punk ‘n’ roll, and
              sees the Colchester-born artist look back on his lengthy musical career and who
              he is at the core of it, plus the state of the world and the sad loss of his parents.
              Getting in touch with CJ, we chat to him about the taste of fame, the art of being
              free, diva-ish behaviour and more.

                    J released the single, ‘One Of  The   and the platform, and how privileged we were to   There’s a song on ‘DEViL’ called ‘Diva’. CJ
                 CBoys’, at the end of March. It’s an hon-  be put in that position. So, yeah, when I tasted   sings ‘I’m not a diva’. We ask if he’s ever done
              est, reflective look back at a life in music. He   fame, it’s not just ‘I got it all wrong’, we all got it   anything remotely diva-ish.
              tells Black Velvet that referring to himself as ‘one   all wrong, and it’s well documented, and no one   “Yeah, millions of things,” he replies. “But
              of the boys’ is him saying that he’s just a normal,   would look at that band and say, ‘Yeah, that is   that song was about when I was accused of
              everyday person, the same as anyone else.   the formula for success.’”   being a diva for asking for a bottle of water and
                 “Anyone that gets up on stage and expects   Hindsight is 20/20, so they say. And, despite   a towel. I got accused of being entitled,” he
              people to pay and watch them up on stage,   everything he’s achieved in the rock world, he   laughs. “And I just wanted to say to the idiot who
              whether it’s a musician, an artist, a comedian,   says that if he could change anything, then he   said that, ‘You have no idea’. I come from a band
              an actor, you’ve got to have an ego, because   wouldn’t be a musician at all.    who are some of the biggest divas on earth!
              you, straightaway, believe you’re better than the   “One of the things I believe in is that you   When you get a certain degree of success,
              person on the other side of the barrier, on the   firmly choose roads, you make decisions, you   sometimes it goes to your head, you know, so,
              other side of the stage, and they’ve got to pay   make choices. Whether they’re good or bad, you   when you have your tantrums, they are going to
              to come and see you perform. And, basically,   have to still believe in what you’re doing. I never   be like full-blown ones. But we’ve made diva re-
              when you strip that all away, if you’re still per-  look back and go…  The only thing I would   quests and stuff like that, but, asking for a bottle
              forming and you’re still up on that stage, then   change, if I could go back, is, I wouldn’t be a mu-  of water and a towel, if someone thinks that’s
              you’ve got a problem. And I’m basically saying,   sician, I’d be a chef now, and you’d be interview-  diva behaviour, they need to get out a bit more…
              when that curtain falls, I’m just one of the boys.   ing me in my restaurant, or one of my   hang around with some real divas.”
              And it’s also a metaphor for someone coming to   restaurants. That’s the only change in my life, is   The entertainment industry, one would
              the end, the last part of their career, the last part   I wouldn’t go down the rock ‘n’ roll path, but, all   imagine, has more than its fair share of divas.
              of their life as well, just looking back and realis-  the mistakes, all the good things we did, all the   CJ says, “When you get to a certain level,
              ing, it doesn’t matter what I’ve achieved or what   bad things we did, all the great things we did,   you’ve got a lot of people around you, doing stuff
              I haven’t achieved, at the end of the day, I’m just   they were done for a reason. But they were   for you. When you’re touring with a full crew,
              like everybody else.”               done. We weren’t forced. No one held a gun to   you’ve got PR people, a manager, you’ve got
                 With a career that saw CJ joining London   our head, ever. No one’s ever held a gun to my   cooks on the road with you, people setting up all
              rockers Tattooed Love Boys in the late 80s, it   head. All the things I’ve done, all the mistakes   your gear, you don’t need to touch anything. Ev-
              wasn’t long before the guitarist formed The Wild-  I’ve made, all the things I’ve got right, have all   erything’s there. Your rider’s there. Whatever
              hearts with frontman Ginger in 1989, a band that   been under my own steam, and no one could   you want, it’s on your rider. And they’re like your
              has achieved 13 UK Top 40 singles, and 2 UK   have changed that course or kicked us off that   servants, basically. They’re doing everything for
              Top 10 albums. Looking back at that, he sings   road; that’s the road we chose to go down.”   you, so that affects people. If you live that way
              in ‘One Of The Boys’, ‘When I tasted fame, I got   Does he think that a lot of musicians get   for a very, very long time, when you’re not in that
              it all so wrong’. We ask what he got wrong.   things wrong in the early days, when every-  environment, and take yourself away from the
                 “Just about everything,” CJ replies. “There’s   thing’s new and fun? Is it part and parcel of   environment, you’re kind of expecting the same
              a privileged club in the music world. Not even a   being a young musician to make mistakes?    treatment as well. One of the things that is really
              percentage of all the musicians in the world get   CJ replies, “It depends what genre you’re in,   grounding, especially for me, was, although I
              to sign big record deals, get to tour round the   but we came from that rock ‘n’ roll background.   spent many, many decades touring at a certain
              world, get in the charts, get on the radio, TV…   There was no way on earth we weren’t going to   level, and having crew and stuff done for me, I
              it’s a very exclusive and very small club. And, if   go and emulate people we used to look up to as   spent an equal amount of time having to do stuff
              you’re fortunate enough to have signed very big   kids. We were gonna do drugs, we were gonna   myself as well. The last tour I did, the Ricky War-
              record deals… I’m not talking about small   get high, and get drunk. We were gonna be bad   wick tour last year, I was driving the van, I was
              deals… big record deals to big corporations, you   boys. It was destined. That was the road we   selling the merch, roadieing myself and playing
              get a machine behind you. And what you get is   were walking down. But there comes a point   in the band. It’s times like that where I realised
              thousands and thousands and thousands of   when you’ve got to knuckle down and you’ve got   that, as much as there’s been diva-esque mo-
              people all over the world working to try and   to play the game if you want to progress. Even   ments in my life, my feet are firmly on the
              make your music really, really popular. And, if   the baddest bands in the world, the ones who   ground, and they’ve always been stuck on the
              you don’t embrace that machine, and you fight   became very, very famous, they played the   ground.”
              against it, then, ultimately, you’re stabbing your-  game. You’ve got to. And we just didn’t. I think
              self in the eye. You’re mugging yourself. I was a   the biggest mistake The Wildhearts made, was   n ‘The Art Of Being Free’, another song on
              member of a band who constantly mugged   blaming our record labels for us, when we   I‘DEViL’, CJ sings, ‘I’ve gotta get away, get
              themselves.  And we were given endless   should have really looked at ourselves and put   away from here. If I had to stay, I think I’d lose
              chances. I felt myself and everyone in that band   our hands up and said, ‘Yeah, we were mup-  my mind’. The song looks back at that life of rock
              didn’t appreciate the chances we were given,   pets’, you know?”       ‘n’ roll mayhem. He tells Black Velvet, “In ‘The

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