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                    ccording to the band, ‘The Fallout’ is the   got a lot of positive feedback from all sorts of   week is horrendous! The real world generally
                 Amost pure, raw, and authentic they’ve   people and I think it was a great opportunity for   doesn’t feel real. You’re kind of lost for a week
              been. They’ve stated, ‘This is really who we are’.   kids to see that this is something you can do,   wondering what’s going on. It’s difficult, because
              They, in particular vocalist Josh Taylor, reveal all   and it’s alright to feel bad sometimes, and it’s to-  that feeling you get of performing on stage, it’s
              in the open and honest lyrics on the album.    tally normal.”          like such a unique experience. It makes sense
                 We begin by asking the band to tell us a bit   We ask if they think a lot of people are   why a lot of people do drugs to keep that going,
              more about who they really are – and what lis-  scared to be themselves, especially when   because it’s such a high,” he laughs. “But I think
              teners will discover about them when they listen   they’re young.      it is great if you can do it in a healthy way and,
              to ‘The Fallout’.                     “I think so,” answers Josh. “I think it’s harder   like you say, it does ground you. I love to go off
                 “I guess we’re just three top lads, three   now, especially with even the generation below   in nature and forget that people exist and stuff
              blokes from the North of England,” answers   us. Growing up at such a young age with social   like that, so it’s just learning to find your coping
              Josh, casually. “No, I guess they will discover   media, I think it’s unnatural, isn’t it? Hundreds   mechanisms to slowly bring yourself back down
              that, underneath our crazy energy and live   and thousands of people can see your life and   and then go back up again.”
              show, there’s a lot of vulnerability there, and I   judge your life and you, as a young kid, can see   Success can often come at a price. Some
              think ‘The Fallout’ sort of highlights that. Our   everything. You judge your success and how   people go down the wrong path when they be-
              journey, as people, as a band, the sort of battles   you look off these random people around the   come successful. Jack tells us, “We’ve spoken
              we go through with mental health, and just our   world. I think it’s crazy. I speak to my mum about   about this so much, and how in tune we are with
              journey, really. And I think we’re kinda not shying   it. She’s a headteacher. She talks about it all the   each other and ourselves, and what makes us
              away at all with the songs on this album, and   time, how mental it is now with her kids, the   work well and what makes us mentally at our
              sort of just letting them talk about how we feel   amount of exposure you get at a young age. It’s   best. We’ve spoken so much, like Josh just said,
              and what’s been going on, basically.”   a lot to deal with, which is why, I guess, the mes-  him going out into nature and hiking, stuff like
                                                  sage that we’re trying to put out there about   that, Zack playing games and chilling out, and
                   he band released the album opener,   being yourself is important. I think that is the   having his own space. I go fishing and to the
                 T‘Trophy’, as a single well over a year   best thing you can do. And, I think, learning to   football, and all that sort of stuff. We all make
              ago. It was the first teaser of what fans would   love yourself and express yourself, how you   sure each of us has a life outside of it as well
              find on ‘The Fallout’. With Josh singing, ‘I wear   truly feel, is important. And, yeah, we want to   and we have our own space. Even when we are
              my skin like a trophy, so they give a fuck about   project that and, hopefully, lead by example.”   together, that space is there. That respect is
              me’, it’s a song about wanting a genuine con-                          there. We are our own people, even though we
              nection rather than just being seen as a prize.   n the song ‘Monsters & Demons’, Josh   share such an amazing thing, there are differ-
              It’s a song with feeling, with depth, and with can-  Isings, ‘All your monsters and your   ences and we do all that sort of stuff. I think
              dour.                               demons, yeah, they’re here to stay.’ Josh thinks   that’s important, no matter whatever level you’re
                 Later in the song, Josh sings, ‘My heart in a   that most people probably have monsters and   at, that you have that split. You can be Jack from
              tomb till it can’t breathe’. We ask if men, or peo-  demons.           THE HARA on show days, but when we go
              ple in general, lock their heart up or bury it away   “I’d hope so. It makes us human,” he says.   home and when we’re with our family and
              in a tomb.                          “I think ‘Monsters & Demons’ is also about the   friends, we’re Jack Kennedy and Zack Breen
                 “Yeah, absolutely,” replies Josh. “Masculin-  relationship with that and the relationship of   and Josh Taylor. I feel like it’s a different thing,
              ity, in general, it’s that whole thing where men   being a creative person and an artist and the   it’s like a separate person. I think dealing with
              struggle, I think, sometimes, to be vulnerable.   fear of losing your demons and the fear of being   that sort of stuff is about having everything in
              You feel like you have to be strong and hold it   happy, because some of the best art, I believe,   your life, just making sure it’s in check. If you let
              in, and I think it can be quite damaging if you do   and some of the best songs we’ve done comes   things slip, if we let slip going to the gym or
              that for too long. So, yeah, that’s exactly what   from a place of darkness. And, yeah, it’s a weird   doing all this stuff outside of work and seeing
              that lyric is. Sort of getting used to putting up a   thing, to wonder what it’d be like if you didn’t   friends, and that sort of stuff, that’s when things
              shield for so long, then it does more damage   have that side, what would happen, and it’s such   get too much and you’re like, ‘Alright, whatever’.
              than good. Yeah, man, talk about your feelings,   a dichotomy.”        We’ve never done mad stuff, but yeah, it’s
              which, again, is something that we’re really good   There are a lot of dark songs on ‘The Fall-  harder if you haven’t got that control or aware-
              at and have got better at, which is really nice.   out’. Songs such as ‘Stay’ and ‘Violence’ (which   ness in everyday life.”
              Talk to your mates. Let it out. Have a cry.”   features As December Falls, who the band have
                 We love that the band are open about men-  just toured the UK with) focus on a toxic relation-  efore signing to Mascot Records, the
              tal health. They have been mental health advo-  ship, while ‘Easier To Die’ exudes hopelessness   Bband had a period of being an indepen-
              cates for as long as the band has been in   and despondency.           dent band, following the split from their previous
              existance. Back in the early days of the band,   Some of the songs also cover experiences   label. They had some tough times behind the
              the trio visited schools and spoke about mental   that they’ve had in the music industry. ‘Inter-  scenes, which brought up an array of emotions,
              health, urging kids to be themselves.    galactic Sabotage’ is described as “a bit of a   including anger, insecurity and doubt.
                 “The school tours we did when the band first   piss-take song in a way,” says Josh. “It’s very   Josh says, for him, it was self-doubt “about
              started, it was via an agency, actually,” Zack tells   tongue-in-cheek. Us kind of taking the piss out   everything, really. You question everything. With
              Black Velvet. “I felt like it was a great opportunity   of the music industry, how we feel it’s full of bol-  the last year, before we joined Mascot Records,
              at the time, ‘cause we had just started and this   locks. Just us kind of being like, ‘Fuck off’, in a   we went independent for 12 months, and I think
              guy was like, ‘We’ll put you in front of hundreds   kind of funny way. And, yeah, just wanting to go   there’s a lot of uncertainty with that when it’s just
              of people every week if you do this,’ and we   back in time and be a band before social media,   us. We’ve got an amazing small team, but I think
              thought, ‘Alright’. Not very rock ‘n’ roll, but you’ve   before all the bullshit and just play shows and   that was kind of a shock to the system to really
              got to play every show you’re offered, I feel,   that sort of thing. Yeah, that’s the kind of vibe,   believe in yourself, and there are days where
              when you start. And we’ve always been about   just us having a bit of fun with it.”   you just… it feels like nothing’s working, or
              honing that live show. And there were so many   “Stick it to the man in that one, it’s great,”   you’re not moving forward, and yeah, that over-
              positives, actually, in hindsight. It was so bene-  says Jack. “There are things in there, if you pick   whelming sense of you not feeling good enough
              ficial. Just being on the road all the time, learn-  up on them, and I think people in the music in-  in yourself, and yeah, just not knowing what the
              ing how to play together, learning to know what   dustry, if they pick up on them, they’ll be like, I   answer is, but yeah, that’s it for me.”
              Jack’s going to play next and how I’m going to   think, quietly, a lot of people will be like, ‘Yeah,   Zack remembers, “On the back of what you
              follow that. Just subconsciously, playing to-  this is true’.”         just said there, Josh, that time where we left our
              gether, living together every day, but the way   ‘Twist The Arrows’, meanwhile, is related to   previous label, and we kind of then commenced
              that the school sessions went was, we did pro-  how musicians can swing from the elation of   writing for ‘The Fallout’, we told ourselves, day
              mote mental health as well, which, I think, is a   playing to thousands of people to then going   one, regardless of whether we get picked up
              really great thing to do. And we did that for half   back to mundane life at home. We picture the   again, ‘We’re doing it, no matter what’. And, I
              an hour in our set, the rest of it, we promoted   ‘mundane life at home’ as being a good place   think, in that moment, yeah, it took a lot of
              our music, promoted our tours in the areas that   and time to recharge and a way to stay   strength to huddle together and be like, ‘Stay
              we were touring in, and we’d go visit, promote   grounded.             true to the vision’, especially with that uncer-
              mental health and promote the band. When you   “It can be good for that, yeah,” says Josh. “I   tainty. We just existed with that uncertainty being
              boil it down to that, those bullet points, it was re-  think it is a headfuck though, I think that the   there. And that was tricky, that was definitely
              ally good and we got a good return for it. I’d like   more the extreme highs to the extreme lows can   tricky. But, I think, Mascot, getting picked up, if
              to think/hope that we did help some people in   be quite hard to regulate. Every time after we’ve   anything, speaking personally, that cemented,
              the interim of doing that as well. We definitely   done a big tour and we come home, that first   ‘Oh yeah, we know what we’re doing. The music
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